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	<title>Comments on: Jesus Became God: Part 2 (The Heresy of Creflo Dollar)</title>
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		<title>By: David Iwayemi</title>
		<link>http://blackapologist.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/jesus-became-god-part-2-the-heresy-of-creflo-dollar/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>David Iwayemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank- You Sir for your research based on this topic. Is it possible to get a link or a copy of the message to hear what he was saying. Also Sir how long ago was this and do you know if he still carries this belief confidently because mingling with folks like KCM and many others would mean to me they also caryy the bieleif. Lastly. I know of a Pastor that has manipulated his congregation with this horror and still doies. How do you think that should be addressed rightfully. Thank you Sir and Your blessing are unstopable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank- You Sir for your research based on this topic. Is it possible to get a link or a copy of the message to hear what he was saying. Also Sir how long ago was this and do you know if he still carries this belief confidently because mingling with folks like KCM and many others would mean to me they also caryy the bieleif. Lastly. I know of a Pastor that has manipulated his congregation with this horror and still doies. How do you think that should be addressed rightfully. Thank you Sir and Your blessing are unstopable</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in response to a graham, who wrote:

&quot;WOW!!! why must I ask do you all choose to oppose the preachings of these men and women.&quot;

Because these preachings will cause people to accept a gospel that mentions the name of Christ but doesn&#039;t have the power to save them.  Dollar is trying to help people prosper materially.  I could respect that, if he did not twist the scripture to do so.  Instead of teaching principles of mental hygiene that tend to lead to affluence (which he is qualified to do based on his earned doctorate in counseling), he claims to be teaching the Word of God.  But he isn&#039;t teaching the Word of God--he is teaching a substitute gospel which will not save souls but just help people feel better while they are sliding into hell.  Further down I&#039;ll show you what I mean, but I want to respond to the next part of your comment:

&quot;Just because they are in the spotlight does not mean that they are not in fact “MEN” humans and humans make what???? mistakes…not perfect...&quot;

You are right.  We should not (and I don&#039;t) expect any pastor or leader to be perfect.  

At the same time, just because a person is in the spotlight, or preaching on TV, or driving a Rolls Royce, does not make that person an authority to be listened to on the issue of what the Bible teaches.  A person who claims to be teaching the Bible is always subject to being corrected by the Bible.  We should always ask, &quot;Is this fallible human being basing his ministry on the Bible, or is he just using the Bible to prop up his fallible human ideas?&quot;

a graham again: &quot;i’ve questioned a few things this that have slipped out of this mans mouth,&quot;

If we were talking about a few things that slipped out of the mouth of an otherwise reliable source, I might agree with your response.  But this is an instance of a long pattern of emphasis on things Jesus said not to emphasize, with twisting of the Scripture thrown in where it seemed to help him justify or advance his position.  More on that below.

a graham: &quot;but why don’t you understand that you are playing the devils advocate by making believers question their faith...&quot;

I would to God that every disciple of Dollar and his kind would question their faith.  A mouthed faith in Jesus while following the idol of prosperity is exactly the same in God&#039;s sight as celebrating a golden calf and calling it Yahweh (Exodus 32).  


&quot;... which is supported by the word which is delivered by these men i.e. Creflo A. Dollar so are you doing a justice for God or helping the Devil win christians over!!!!!! CUT IT OUT!!!!!&quot;

Was Moses helping the Devil when he came down from the mountain and rebuked the Israelites for worshipping the golden calf?  After all, they were calling it by the name of the true God, so it must have been o.k., right?  And Moses should have tried to be in unity with them instead of being so divisive?  Read it!  Whose idea was it to kill them all and start over?  You don&#039;t get on God&#039;s side by naming your idols after Him.  You get on God&#039;s side by accepting Him on His own terms.

Here&#039;s what Jesus had to say about a life or ministry that revolves around getting stuff:

Mat 6:19-21 ESV “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, (20) but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. (21) For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”

Mat 6:31-33 ESV “Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ (32) For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. (33) But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. &quot;

Dollar&#039;s whole ministry is a refutation of these words of Jesus.  Instead of seeking first the kingdom of God, he seeks and teaches seeking temporal prosperity with God as the agent.  As I said in my comment to the previous post on this blog, there is one gospel that will save us, and it is a gospel of submission to the cross of Jesus. The true gospel of Christ doesn’t teach us how to fulfill worldly ambitions, it calls us to die to them. Any other gospel is useless, except to help us understand this teaching of Jesus:

Mat 7:13-14 ESV “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. (14) For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.”

Those who call attention to where that wide gate is leading are not helping the Devil.  We are resisting him, and those who are unwittingly leading souls down the path to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to a graham, who wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;WOW!!! why must I ask do you all choose to oppose the preachings of these men and women.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because these preachings will cause people to accept a gospel that mentions the name of Christ but doesn&#8217;t have the power to save them.  Dollar is trying to help people prosper materially.  I could respect that, if he did not twist the scripture to do so.  Instead of teaching principles of mental hygiene that tend to lead to affluence (which he is qualified to do based on his earned doctorate in counseling), he claims to be teaching the Word of God.  But he isn&#8217;t teaching the Word of God&#8211;he is teaching a substitute gospel which will not save souls but just help people feel better while they are sliding into hell.  Further down I&#8217;ll show you what I mean, but I want to respond to the next part of your comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;Just because they are in the spotlight does not mean that they are not in fact “MEN” humans and humans make what???? mistakes…not perfect&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You are right.  We should not (and I don&#8217;t) expect any pastor or leader to be perfect.  </p>
<p>At the same time, just because a person is in the spotlight, or preaching on TV, or driving a Rolls Royce, does not make that person an authority to be listened to on the issue of what the Bible teaches.  A person who claims to be teaching the Bible is always subject to being corrected by the Bible.  We should always ask, &#8220;Is this fallible human being basing his ministry on the Bible, or is he just using the Bible to prop up his fallible human ideas?&#8221;</p>
<p>a graham again: &#8220;i’ve questioned a few things this that have slipped out of this mans mouth,&#8221;</p>
<p>If we were talking about a few things that slipped out of the mouth of an otherwise reliable source, I might agree with your response.  But this is an instance of a long pattern of emphasis on things Jesus said not to emphasize, with twisting of the Scripture thrown in where it seemed to help him justify or advance his position.  More on that below.</p>
<p>a graham: &#8220;but why don’t you understand that you are playing the devils advocate by making believers question their faith&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I would to God that every disciple of Dollar and his kind would question their faith.  A mouthed faith in Jesus while following the idol of prosperity is exactly the same in God&#8217;s sight as celebrating a golden calf and calling it Yahweh (Exodus 32).  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; which is supported by the word which is delivered by these men i.e. Creflo A. Dollar so are you doing a justice for God or helping the Devil win christians over!!!!!! CUT IT OUT!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Was Moses helping the Devil when he came down from the mountain and rebuked the Israelites for worshipping the golden calf?  After all, they were calling it by the name of the true God, so it must have been o.k., right?  And Moses should have tried to be in unity with them instead of being so divisive?  Read it!  Whose idea was it to kill them all and start over?  You don&#8217;t get on God&#8217;s side by naming your idols after Him.  You get on God&#8217;s side by accepting Him on His own terms.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what Jesus had to say about a life or ministry that revolves around getting stuff:</p>
<p>Mat 6:19-21 ESV “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, (20) but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. (21) For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”</p>
<p>Mat 6:31-33 ESV “Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ (32) For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. (33) But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. &#8221;</p>
<p>Dollar&#8217;s whole ministry is a refutation of these words of Jesus.  Instead of seeking first the kingdom of God, he seeks and teaches seeking temporal prosperity with God as the agent.  As I said in my comment to the previous post on this blog, there is one gospel that will save us, and it is a gospel of submission to the cross of Jesus. The true gospel of Christ doesn’t teach us how to fulfill worldly ambitions, it calls us to die to them. Any other gospel is useless, except to help us understand this teaching of Jesus:</p>
<p>Mat 7:13-14 ESV “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. (14) For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.”</p>
<p>Those who call attention to where that wide gate is leading are not helping the Devil.  We are resisting him, and those who are unwittingly leading souls down the path to hell.</p>
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		<title>By: blackapologist</title>
		<link>http://blackapologist.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/jesus-became-god-part-2-the-heresy-of-creflo-dollar/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>blackapologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To AGraham:

With all due respect, you apparently have no idea as to what the word &quot;Apologetics&quot; mean nor the purpose of this weblog. I thought I made it clear in the &quot;About&quot; section. The bottom line is Mr. Dollar&#039;s assertion that &quot;Jesus was not God, but a man&quot; is more than just a &quot;little mistake.&quot; In fact, the Bible calls it &quot;Doctrines of Demons.&quot; And, according to Jude, we&#039;re to &quot;Earnestly contend (fight) for the Faith that was once and for delivered unto the Saints.&quot; Therefore, I am absolutely confident that the God of the Bible approves of our exposing False Teachers! Will you join us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To AGraham:</p>
<p>With all due respect, you apparently have no idea as to what the word &#8220;Apologetics&#8221; mean nor the purpose of this weblog. I thought I made it clear in the &#8220;About&#8221; section. The bottom line is Mr. Dollar&#8217;s assertion that &#8220;Jesus was not God, but a man&#8221; is more than just a &#8220;little mistake.&#8221; In fact, the Bible calls it &#8220;Doctrines of Demons.&#8221; And, according to Jude, we&#8217;re to &#8220;Earnestly contend (fight) for the Faith that was once and for delivered unto the Saints.&#8221; Therefore, I am absolutely confident that the God of the Bible approves of our exposing False Teachers! Will you join us?</p>
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		<title>By: a graham</title>
		<link>http://blackapologist.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/jesus-became-god-part-2-the-heresy-of-creflo-dollar/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>a graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!!! why must I ask do you all choose to oppose the preachings of these men and women.  Just because they are in the spotlight does not mean that they are not in fact &quot;MEN&quot; humans and humans make what???? mistakes...not perfect, i&#039;ve questioned a few things this that have slipped out of this mans mouth, but why don&#039;t you understand that you are playing the devils advocate by making believers question their faith which is supported by the word which is delivered by these men i.e. Creflo A. Dollar so are you doing a justice for God or helping the Devil win christians over!!!!!! CUT IT OUT!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!!! why must I ask do you all choose to oppose the preachings of these men and women.  Just because they are in the spotlight does not mean that they are not in fact &#8220;MEN&#8221; humans and humans make what???? mistakes&#8230;not perfect, i&#8217;ve questioned a few things this that have slipped out of this mans mouth, but why don&#8217;t you understand that you are playing the devils advocate by making believers question their faith which is supported by the word which is delivered by these men i.e. Creflo A. Dollar so are you doing a justice for God or helping the Devil win christians over!!!!!! CUT IT OUT!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Canlas</title>
		<link>http://blackapologist.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/jesus-became-god-part-2-the-heresy-of-creflo-dollar/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa Canlas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir:

Just making a few points.

Before Jesus was born the angel spoke to Mary in Luke 1:35 .... and called Him (Jesus) the Holy One who is to be born.  This title is not given to mere men.  Men are born in sin. He was born Holy.
Jesus knew he was not of this world at age 12.  Luke 2:49 He told Joseph and Mary He was doing His Father&#039;s business. 
Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of God and the Son of Man 
John 10:30-33 &quot;I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE
31 Then the Jews took up stones to stone Him 
32 Jesus said &quot;Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?
 33 The Jews answered Him, saying &quot;for a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You being a Man make Yourself equal to God.
 Jesus knew He was God.  He told the Jews the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled before you very eyes.  Jesus allowed Himself to be tested as we are so He would know our frailty and weakness as humans.  Yet He was without sin ( because God cannot sin ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir:</p>
<p>Just making a few points.</p>
<p>Before Jesus was born the angel spoke to Mary in Luke 1:35 &#8230;. and called Him (Jesus) the Holy One who is to be born.  This title is not given to mere men.  Men are born in sin. He was born Holy.<br />
Jesus knew he was not of this world at age 12.  Luke 2:49 He told Joseph and Mary He was doing His Father&#8217;s business.<br />
Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of God and the Son of Man<br />
John 10:30-33 &#8220;I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE<br />
31 Then the Jews took up stones to stone Him<br />
32 Jesus said &#8220;Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?<br />
 33 The Jews answered Him, saying &#8220;for a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You being a Man make Yourself equal to God.<br />
 Jesus knew He was God.  He told the Jews the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled before you very eyes.  Jesus allowed Himself to be tested as we are so He would know our frailty and weakness as humans.  Yet He was without sin ( because God cannot sin ).</p>
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		<title>By: MIN RYAN JONES</title>
		<link>http://blackapologist.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/jesus-became-god-part-2-the-heresy-of-creflo-dollar/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>MIN RYAN JONES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES SIR! IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU CAN POINT ME TO THE DIRECT CD/TAPE THAT ACTUALLY HAS CREFLO A. DOLLAR DENYING THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST? NOT
ONLY CREFLO A.DOLLAR BUT ANYONE ELESE SUCH AS TD JAKES, BENNY HENN, KENNETH COPELAND ETC.THE REASON I ASK IS, FOUR YRS OR SO I HEARD A BROADCAST ON HANK HANNEGRAFF&#039;S BIBLE ANWSER MAN THAT HAD THESE NAMES MENTIONED ABOVE AUDIBLE, DENYING JESUS IS GOD AND SOME OTHERS (ALONG WITH THESE)CLAIMING &quot;GOD TO BE A MAN SIX FEET TALL.&quot; PLEASE CAN YOU HELP WITH ANY CLIPS OF MAIN STREAM &quot;PREACHERS&quot; DENYING CHRIST DEITY IR EVEN &quot;GOD IS A MAN&quot;? I WANT SOME BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF MINE TO ACTUALLY HEAR THIS- CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES SIR! IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU CAN POINT ME TO THE DIRECT CD/TAPE THAT ACTUALLY HAS CREFLO A. DOLLAR DENYING THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST? NOT<br />
ONLY CREFLO A.DOLLAR BUT ANYONE ELESE SUCH AS TD JAKES, BENNY HENN, KENNETH COPELAND ETC.THE REASON I ASK IS, FOUR YRS OR SO I HEARD A BROADCAST ON HANK HANNEGRAFF&#8217;S BIBLE ANWSER MAN THAT HAD THESE NAMES MENTIONED ABOVE AUDIBLE, DENYING JESUS IS GOD AND SOME OTHERS (ALONG WITH THESE)CLAIMING &#8220;GOD TO BE A MAN SIX FEET TALL.&#8221; PLEASE CAN YOU HELP WITH ANY CLIPS OF MAIN STREAM &#8220;PREACHERS&#8221; DENYING CHRIST DEITY IR EVEN &#8220;GOD IS A MAN&#8221;? I WANT SOME BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF MINE TO ACTUALLY HEAR THIS- CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Kelvin Stewart</title>
		<link>http://blackapologist.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/jesus-became-god-part-2-the-heresy-of-creflo-dollar/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Kelvin Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful and thoughtful exposition of truth. May the Lord continue to strengthen you in the defense of the Faith once for all delivered to the saints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful and thoughtful exposition of truth. May the Lord continue to strengthen you in the defense of the Faith once for all delivered to the saints.</p>
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		<title>By: Yomi Adegboye</title>
		<link>http://blackapologist.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/jesus-became-god-part-2-the-heresy-of-creflo-dollar/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Yomi Adegboye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir,

Thank you for the diligent examination of Mr. Dollar&#039;s heretical teachings. How much more do we need to hear before we call men like these what they are?

I did a write-up recently examining his claims that Jesus was a rich man (of course to justify his greed and covetousness!). His teachings consistently fall flat in the face of Holy Writ. Here is a wolf among us. No apologies offered.

Stay blessed and faithful in presenting the unchanging truths of God&#039;s word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir,</p>
<p>Thank you for the diligent examination of Mr. Dollar&#8217;s heretical teachings. How much more do we need to hear before we call men like these what they are?</p>
<p>I did a write-up recently examining his claims that Jesus was a rich man (of course to justify his greed and covetousness!). His teachings consistently fall flat in the face of Holy Writ. Here is a wolf among us. No apologies offered.</p>
<p>Stay blessed and faithful in presenting the unchanging truths of God&#8217;s word.</p>
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